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Add Homonyms...

Wed Jul 1, 2009 11:19 PM EDT
odd-news, humor, satire, writing, words, grammar, meaning, errors, spelling, confusion, definitions, grafitti, pronunciation, typos, misunderstood, misused, homonyms, mis-spelling
By neenie1991

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They sound the same but they are spelled differently and mean different things. They also confuse the hell out of people and sometimes it's just plain funny.

Homonyms are words that are identical to other words in spelling or pronunciation, or both, while differing from them in meaning and usually in origin. Or something like that.

Mainly, they can befuddle and frustrate. There are some very common ones seen everyday on Newsvine and elsewhere. They are fun to play with in puns and jokes. Here is an idiotic example:

Joe said the little plain landed over their on rode 26. Eye didn't sea it until the toe-truck that picked it up came in too town. I've herd they had engine trouble and landed wear they could, road 26 was the closest thing to a runway. Joe said he saw the hole thing plane as day, he was sure a crash was coming, but their was know place fore them to go. He said that pilot was doing sum quick thinking, people could have been killed or worse.

There, they're and there are commonly misunderstood or misused. One I see a lot is lose and loose. Sometimes a person can be described as a "loose cannon". I would wonder about someone who could lose or misplace a cannon.

This is what I saw on a church marquee yesterday - "Find Piece with Christ"

I think we are all guilty of it at one time or another. Will you admit to it? Do you have a favorite?

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neenie1991

I'm just having fun. No a tax please.

  • 7 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Jul 1, 2009 11:21 PM EDT
teresa-498430

High neenie, Eye all weighs wondered if ewer moniker is all sew ewer nick name. If its knot, due ewe have won?

Eye sure enjoyed ewer peace it cot my attention.

  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Wed Jul 1, 2009 11:53 PM EDT
neenie1991

It is my knick name. Thanks fore playing along, isn't this fun? That won eye saw at the church got me started. It maid me laugh my azz off.

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 12:06 AM EDT
Kate In Greensboro

Ewe shore maid me think allot two day. Now my brain hertz. I am planning sum add homonym add tax for later in the weak.

  • 5 votes
#1.3 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 8:55 PM EDT
Reply
whatthetruth52

neenie,

Thank you four the best article on the vine today. I just could knot set this down. You are to bee commended four posting this....

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Jul 1, 2009 11:33 PM EDT
neenie1991

Thank ewe very much. Eye hoped people wood have fun with it.

  • 6 votes
#2.1 - Wed Jul 1, 2009 11:38 PM EDT
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chelli

Neenie,

Thank-you! These drive me nuts too! I particularly love your toe-truck example. Imagine a truck coming to fix those nasty little toes!?

I understand that we all make these errors in haste from time to time. Here on Newsvine, I do find lose and loose very discombobulating. My one question, if anyone can truly explain it in a way that I understand is the word Lisence, lisence, liscence, or whatever the heck it is. It's the one word that truly mystifies my understanding of the English language! Its even worse for me than affect/effect.

  • 4 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Jul 1, 2009 11:50 PM EDT
neenie1991

Generally license is used in any sense where you are talking in terms of 'permission'. License to drive, liquor license, poetice license, etc. Some people use the 'licence' with the same meaning, it's just a British and sometimes Canadian spelling.

  • 2 votes
#3.1 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 12:14 AM EDT
OverIt-789030

One tow truck company's name is Tow Jam... or was it Toe Jam ?

  • 2 votes
#3.2 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 10:06 PM EDT
Reply
iceman6

neenie,

I agree, best thing on the vine today. As to the little sentences their much harder, there is no whey I wood want to do this for a living.

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 12:16 AM EDT
neenie1991

Write on! And spell cheque doesn't help! Sometimes I want two tell people butt that's just rude, especially since I'm naught without sin.

  • 3 votes
#4.1 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 12:30 AM EDT
iceman6

Neenie,

You are getting REALLY good at this (spell cheque is great).

This was the first article I came back to this morning, just for the fun. You have started my day the right way.

Thank you

  • 3 votes
#4.2 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 7:50 AM EDT
neenie1991

You just made my day!

  • 2 votes
#4.3 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 9:15 AM EDT
Reply
River-239955

How much would wood a wouldchuuk chuuk if a wouldchuuk wood cuuk would?

A wouldchuuk wood chuuk as much would as a wouldchuuk could chuuk, IF a wouldchuuk wood chuuk would.

Like that?

  • 3 votes
Reply#5 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 12:29 AM EDT
Hen's Teeth

Aye saw a sine in a Christmas tree lot that red,

"Furs - $20"

  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 1:13 AM EDT
neenie1991

LOL! A cheep way to spruce up you're house.

  • 3 votes
#6.1 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 1:30 AM EDT
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LifeTravler

Oh gawd! I've been on the road all night and then I see this. LOL My poor brain just fried again.

  • 5 votes
Reply#7 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 6:43 AM EDT
rottlady

Don't feel bad LifeTravler, mine did too! I'm going to have to come back and try to absorb this later. Thanks for my morning laugh neenie!

  • 6 votes
#7.1 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 6:58 AM EDT
OverIt-789030

Well in life, are you a wreckless driver or a reckless driver?

  • 3 votes
#7.2 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 10:09 PM EDT
LifeTravler

Right now I'm more of a feckless driver. LOL

  • 2 votes
#7.3 - Sat Jul 4, 2009 2:14 AM EDT
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Cooper1

Luv it neenie. This is grate. Eye can't keep my i's off it. :P Eye saw a Dairy Queen sine once... "Sundays .99 scents"

  • 3 votes
Reply#8 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 10:42 AM EDT
neenie1991

Aren't those grate? Aye always wish I had a camera.

  • 3 votes
#8.1 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 10:51 AM EDT
Karl_

*the undertaker

Good mourning.

  • 5 votes
#8.2 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 5:46 PM EDT
Cooper1

Aye always wish I had a camera

Yeah. Me two. Butt eye never deaux. May bee won day eye will bye me won. Guess eye yam out of luck til then. Luv this article. :P

  • 3 votes
#8.3 - Tue Jul 7, 2009 4:50 PM EDT
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Syntactic Tree

Haha! Thanks for the smile; what a nice article. =)

Just for everyone's information (Newsvine does claim to be the place to "get smarter"):

  • homonym: 2. a word the same as another in sound and spelling but different in meaning, as chase 'to pursue' and chase 'to ornament metal.'

In other words, pronunciation and spelling in this case are both relevant. I remember it etymologically: homo SAME + nym NAME (i.e., same spelling - "name" - is required).

  • homophone: 1. Phonetics. a word pronounced the same as another but differing in meaning, whether spelled the same way or not, as heir and air.

In other words, pronunciation is still relevant, while spelling in this case is irrelevant (the two words may or may not be spelled alike). You can also remember this if you treat it etymologically: homo SAME + phone SOUND (i.e., pronunciation matters, with no reference to spelling/"name").

So, there is indeed overlap, but not bidirectional. Homonyms (a more specified category) are a subset of all homophones (a more general category). Thus, if you are a homonym, you are by definition a homophone. It is not true, however, that if you are a homophone, then you are necessarily a homonym, because to be a homophone, you minimally need same pronunciation/different meaning, and there are indeed words that fit this category that do not fit the additional category of also having the same spelling to be a homonym.

Thus, it is possible to be a homophone without being a homonym. It is not possible to be a homonym without being a homophone.

We won't get into homographs. See the links herein for further discussion.

All clear now? ;)

  • 5 votes
Reply#9 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 11:59 AM EDT
neenie1991

Moor confused then ever.

  • 2 votes
#9.1 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 12:04 PM EDT
Syntactic Tree

Ha! Sorry about that.

I also wanted to mention that the "lose"/"loose" dichotomy is neither homonymous nor homophonous, as they have different spellings and are pronounced differently. Are they "similar" (however we choose to quantify that)? Yes, perhaps explaining the confusion. But with respect to being "similar" based on the specific set of criteria necessary to be either a homonym or homophone - same spelling and/or same pronunciation - both requirements are unmet.

Spelling: "Lose" as in "msiplace"/"not win" is spelled with one "o," while "loose" as in "not tight" has two "o"s; thus, they are not homonyms.

Pronunciation: "Lose" as in "misplace"/"not win" is pronounced [lu:z] with a relatively longer vowel and voiced terminal [z], while "loose" as in "not tight" is pronounced [lus] with a relatively shorter vowel and a voiceless terminal [s]; thus, they are not homophones.

Clearer now?

*laughs maniacally*

  • 3 votes
#9.2 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 12:30 PM EDT
CL1

Syntactic -- I knew that also, but since it was used in the article, I thought I could get away with it! They are pronounced differently: loose, using the "s" sound; lose, using a "z' sound. Remember, this article is only for us maniacs - one with excessive enthusiasm for something - I'm not sure if just "laughs maniacally" qualifies! (joking)

  • 3 votes
#9.3 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 1:14 PM EDT
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CL1

Neenie ---Grate article! I almost mist it! Bearly saw it! Hope to meat you again! The next thyme it reins or when I loose my chore list, I'll no wear to cum for sum fun!

  • 3 votes
Reply#10 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 12:21 PM EDT
neenie1991

Owe thanks! I love a post full of whit and whiz dumb.

  • 2 votes
#10.1 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 12:30 PM EDT
Reply
Jimster

mmmmm.....hominy

I ad it whenever I sea an add

It's good, know?

  • 3 votes
Reply#11 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:24 PM EDT
neenie1991

I fined hominy tasty. Knot awl folks due.

  • 2 votes
#11.1 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:32 PM EDT
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EllieP

Fun article, neenie! Gets my vote for best title I've seen in quite awhile! I see you are using homonyms as visual puns, though...jokes that would never work in radio!

  • 3 votes
Reply#12 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 8:23 PM EDT
neenie1991

Ellie,

That's uh bummer to, eye have a face four radio.

  • 3 votes
#12.1 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 8:28 PM EDT
Kate In Greensboro

That's uh bummer to, eye have a face four radio.

Me two, and a voice four print.

  • 4 votes
#12.2 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 9:07 PM EDT
CL1

sounds like air waives and picks!

  • 2 votes
#12.3 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 9:11 PM EDT
neenie1991

Ewe no it.

Aye can knot bee leave how this article is going. I rote won today and gnaw duh. Whoo gnu?

  • 2 votes
#12.4 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 9:15 PM EDT
EllieP

Slow down y'all. They did reduce the legal dose of tylenol this week and y'all are giving me a headache!! I won't even try to play along. I'm competely out of my league!

  • 3 votes
#12.5 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 9:39 PM EDT
neenie1991

Oh, I no four a fact your a brainy whoa man. Dew knot give up! Butt I'm greatfull that you visited and please keep un eye on us, who nos what will happen!

  • 2 votes
#12.6 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 9:56 PM EDT
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OverIt-789030

One student heard the teacher say "No differential equations for the test tomorrow".

Another student heard the teacher say "Know differential equations for the test tomorrow".

Know wonder they did poorly now.

  • 6 votes
Reply#13 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 10:20 PM EDT
CL1

Very cute!

  • 2 votes
#13.1 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 11:26 PM EDT
Reply
USAF Vet-923294

Neenie,

Eye half weighed four someone two explain thees to me. Thanks! ;0 )

  • 2 votes
Reply#14 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 2:01 AM EDT
neenie1991

It was know thing at awl. Aye hoped ewe wood show up with sum new wons. Nice too sea you.

  • 3 votes
#14.1 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 2:13 AM EDT
USAF Vet-923294

Thier our men-knee of thees too play with. Eye dew knot no witch two choose. If eye half to pick, it wood bee awl those ewe used. ;0 )

  • 4 votes
#14.2 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 2:35 AM EDT
believer-369603

hey Ben-- Is your last name Dover? Would that make you a homonym?

No. That's not write

  • 4 votes
#14.3 - Tue Jul 7, 2009 10:26 PM EDT
Reply
KGMO

Aye except yore challenge. Aisle try two dew my best.

  • 4 votes
Reply#15 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 2:31 AM EDT
neenie1991

The to of you must dual it out. Aye am gnaweding off due two my drugs. I can't weight to reed what ewe all come up with twomorrow. Knight-Knight.

  • 2 votes
Reply#16 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 2:40 AM EDT
Victoriawood

To much whine lass knight. Knot vary much two ad too yore tail. Woah S me. Aisle leaf now.

  • 3 votes
Reply#17 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 5:28 PM EDT
believer-369603

You want to leave our little union here Victoria? Does that mean you want to succeed?

  • 3 votes
#17.1 - Tue Jul 7, 2009 10:28 PM EDT
Victoriawood

Y S, I want two suck seed.

  • 3 votes
#17.2 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 2:51 PM EDT
believer-369603

I hate when you improve on my comments :-)

  • 3 votes
#17.3 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 2:56 PM EDT
Victoriawood

I M sew sari!

  • 2 votes
#17.4 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 3:02 PM EDT
believer-369603

I'm obviously up against a master......

  • 2 votes
#17.5 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 3:18 PM EDT
neenie1991

Ok, Win eye go two my are tickle and the first comment aye sea is " Y S, I want to suck seed." Even I was sir prized. Trussed me, that does knot happen off ten!

  • 2 votes
#17.6 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 3:46 PM EDT
believer-369603

Okay here.

"F U N E X?"

"S, V F X"

"O, I 8 M I C"

"U 8 1 2?"

Okay, now I'll give up.

  • 2 votes
#17.7 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 3:59 PM EDT
neenie1991

What r. I knead watt r.

  • 1 vote
#17.8 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 4:08 PM EDT
Victoriawood

AB, C D Monkey?

L! M N O Monkey!

O S, M R Monkey. C M P N?

-----

AB, C D Goldfish?

L! M N O Goldfish!

O S, M R Goldfish. C D B D I's?

  • 2 votes
#17.9 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 5:33 PM EDT
believer-369603

Okay! Stop! I concede.......

I genuflect in your presence.

I'm so humbled.......

  • 3 votes
#17.10 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 5:42 PM EDT
Victoriawood

Aw, that's not necessary. They ain't original. I just like 'em!

  • 3 votes
#17.11 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 5:46 PM EDT
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Karl_

Contrepèterie is the rich cousin of homonym: "I am a pheasant plucker."

  • 3 votes
Reply#18 - Tue Jul 7, 2009 5:09 PM EDT
Victoriawood

Reminds me of a joke about, what's the diff between a tribe of pygmies and a girl's track team?

One is a cunning bunch of runts ...

I know - that's not exactly it - just jarred the memory banks.

Do not flame me.

  • 4 votes
#18.1 - Tue Jul 7, 2009 7:03 PM EDT
Karl_

That was a cunning stunt.

  • 3 votes
#18.2 - Tue Jul 7, 2009 7:26 PM EDT
Victoriawood

Yank thou! (Doesn't sound right, but the letter shift works...)

  • 3 votes
#18.3 - Tue Jul 7, 2009 7:43 PM EDT
CL1

Vw -- 18.1, very funny!

  • 3 votes
#18.4 - Tue Jul 7, 2009 7:46 PM EDT
Victoriawood

Older than dirt, but still a giggler!

:)

VW

  • 3 votes
#18.5 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 2:52 PM EDT
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Karl_

Let us also not forget spoonerism

  • "Three cheers for our queer old dean!" (dear old queen, referring to Queen Victoria)
  • "Is it kisstomary to cuss the bride?" (customary to kiss)
  • "The Lord is a shoving leopard." (a loving shepherd)
  • "A blushing crow." (crushing blow)
  • "A well-boiled icicle" (well-oiled bicycle)
  • "You were fighting a liar in the quadrangle." (lighting a fire)
  • "Is the bean dizzy?" (dean busy)
  • "Someone is occupewing my pie. Please sew me to another sheet." (occupying my pew...show me to another seat)
  • "You have hissed all my mystery lectures. You have tasted a whole worm. Please leave Oxford on the next town drain." (missed...history, wasted...term, down train)
  • One example is "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" (variously attributed to W. C. Fields, Tom Waits, and most commonly Dorothy Parker), which not only shifts the beginning sounds of the word lobotomy, but the entire phrase "frontal lobotomy". The preceding phrase was further developed by Dean Martin, who said, "I would rather have a free bottle in front of me than a pre-frontal lobotomy."

In a situation where profanity is unsuitable, a spoonerism is sometimes used to tone down the intensity of the expression or just to bend the rules. "Bass ackwards" (for ass backwards), "nucking futs" (for @!$%#ing nuts), and "shake a tit" (itself a risqué phrase, for take a @!$%#) are all common examples of these kinds of spoonerisms.

  • 3 votes
Reply#19 - Tue Jul 7, 2009 5:24 PM EDT
CL1

Now THAT requires intelligence! Kinda makes ad homonym sound like baby-talk!

  • 2 votes
#19.1 - Tue Jul 7, 2009 5:47 PM EDT
Syntactic Tree

The joys of metathesis. =)

  • 1 vote
#19.2 - Tue Jul 7, 2009 7:05 PM EDT
Victoriawood

I've had ti many martoonies.

  • 2 votes
#19.3 - Tue Jul 7, 2009 7:06 PM EDT
neenie1991

I use back asswards, have loved bottle in front of me, used to have a sweatshirt that said I'm Nucking Futs! and boy the second looks! I don't think I could invent a spoonerism, but it would be fun for grits and shins.

  • 2 votes
#19.4 - Tue Jul 7, 2009 7:10 PM EDT
USAF Vet-923294

Reminds me of, "Officer, I'm not as think as you drunk I am."

  • 3 votes
#19.5 - Tue Jul 7, 2009 10:29 PM EDT
believer-369603

"Grits and shins" I just had that for breakfast.

  • 2 votes
#19.6 - Tue Jul 7, 2009 10:34 PM EDT
believer-369603

Victoria, you don't seem as think as you drunk you are.

  • 2 votes
#19.7 - Tue Jul 7, 2009 10:34 PM EDT
Victoriawood

On right!

  • 2 votes
#19.8 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 2:53 PM EDT
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cookin mama

nennie i have enjoyed reading this. I would play but not good at this otay.

  • 3 votes
#21 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:50 PM EDT
Victoriawood

(Go to Google and steal something. I will not tell.)

  • 3 votes
#21.1 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:04 PM EDT
neenie1991

Ummm. "You are posting to a public forum" Your career as a criminal is DOOMED!

  • 2 votes
#21.2 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:29 PM EDT
Victoriawood

Well, since I use such a cryptic screen name, I have no doubt that my identity is well concealed and they'll be none the wiser.

  • 3 votes
#21.3 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:02 PM EDT
neenie1991

LOL. Riiiiight.

  • 2 votes
#21.4 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:20 PM EDT
Victoriawood

What? Think they're on to me??

  • 3 votes
#21.5 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:34 PM EDT
neenie1991

I wouldn't answer the door.

  • 2 votes
#21.6 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:37 PM EDT
Victoriawood

OK. Thanks for the tip. Time for that Rottie I've been meaning to buy ...

  • 2 votes
#21.7 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:43 PM EDT
neenie1991

LOL! The cats would eat him!

I wrote an article btw. Sucked, been too long. I usually have notes. What is your 'method'?

  • 2 votes
#21.8 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:50 PM EDT
Victoriawood

I scroll down the tracker and do not nuke the ones I wanna visit. You're on there. I wish I had a better system ...

  • 2 votes
#21.9 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:29 PM EDT
neenie1991

No, I mean for writing your articles and stories and books...nutball.

  • 1 vote
#21.10 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:35 PM EDT
CL1

Hey neenie, watch the "nutball" stuff. There's a certain (nutball) that will come after you! (ask V!) ---teasing, btw.

  • 2 votes
#21.11 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:26 PM EDT
neenie1991

I did not write that. I was not home. I think someone broke in. I have to go now, I need to call the police...

  • 1 vote
#21.12 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:35 PM EDT
CL1

I'll be your witness...

  • 2 votes
#21.13 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:48 PM EDT
cookin mama

Hey CL1 Thanks for watching back on that articel where we all were attacked by afew certain someones.

I would have said something but did not want to stir up trouble.

Thanks neenie for letting me go off topic. (((HUGS)))

  • 3 votes
#21.14 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:33 PM EDT
CL1

Thanks for the "Thanks" that I don't deserve. I tried to keep my cool when I saw what was happening. Instead of freakin' out after my attack, I tried to 'play' with soft-sarcasm, as I call it. I wanted to go after another attacker that was actually doing more damage, but felt like you and didn't. I did attempt to help a friend in the situation that was attempting to help me, but never got a response from those I contacted to clear up any confusion. Hope all is well.

  • 2 votes
#21.15 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:44 PM EDT
neenie1991

Well I do love a mystery...pffft.

  • 1 vote
#21.16 - Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:20 PM EDT
USAF Vet-923294

No, I mean for writing your articles and stories and books...nutball.

Personally, I just start writing. Then I edit. If I like it, I publish it. If not, it gets deleted.

Probably why I have such a small audience. ;0 )

  • 2 votes
#21.17 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:19 AM EDT
CL1

neenie, on your 21.8, how do you know it "sucked"? Maybe it didn't. Try it - we might like it! In your question, sounds like you are saying you make some notes and expound while you are typing. Is that what you do?

  • 2 votes
#21.18 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:56 AM EDT
neenie1991

USAF, Where the hell have you BEEN!? And I love your writing! Pshaw.

CL1, I meant the process on that one sucked, I wasn't feeling it, I have notebooks full of notes, lists and ideas. I have a lot of stories written out in longhand and some on the computer. I write the ones on here in a doc and cut/paste. I never expound - that's why I'm overweight. :)

  • 1 vote
#21.19 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:23 AM EDT
CL1

Thanks, neenie. I wonder if anyone else feels like I do about writing here on NV. This is my tenth month on this site. I've encountered a few that say they are writing a book and looking for material they might be able to use. That really bothers me. That's plagiarism, isn't it? I doubt anything I contribute has value for them, however, some say they get ideas for their stories, also. Even that bothers me. So the story writers here get some little pittance (sp) and the writer gets thousands for your ideas? Nice. Well, that's the reason why I refuse to put a lot of time and energy into posting or anything else. So now all reading this probably hate me! Oh, and that's why I think some authors delete their articles. No proof exists that it was said previously.

  • 3 votes
#21.20 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:02 PM EDT
Victoriawood

Not if you're the one writing it! You can steal words, which is wrong, you can get inspired (like Augur Well) by commentary and your own conversations! That's where most of mine hit me. In fact, you will not hear from me for awhile - got bit by one that should be good!

I'm waiting for my thousands to kick in.

Go for it, CL - I have been archiving every one of the stories I post here into chapeters for a book of "short stories." I may go back into my own strings, Like Rock and Roll War Stories, and search through all the comments because some of mine are little stories of my own, even if what I had to say was inspired within the conversation.

Step one - be an inspiration

Step two - be inspired

Step three - get yer butt in gear and start writing!!!

XO,

VDub

  • 3 votes
#21.21 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 5:51 PM EDT
CL1

Thanks, V..you have an inspirational attitude and a big heart. I understand your points and agree.

Have you ever seen the site, Davis research or to that effect? You can contact them to submit an idea for them to research and help you patent. Like a fool, I played into all of their advertising, and being the first time I had involved myself in anything like that, didn't think of questions to ask regarding money. So I fell along with all of their questions and gave my input on my idea, only to be told later that I had to pay them $14K for them to research it. Of course I expected them to benefit financially, but I thought there would be risks to them as well as myself, and we all might lose. If they would have discussed the money upfront, I never would have submitted my idea. Even though NV is upfront about everything, I still feel a little 'sneakiness' going on. Several times over the last several months I noticed articles on msnbc pop up regarding subjects I mentioned. Coincidence? probably. But I just can't get over the feeling of being used here. Reminds me of the government - give me LOTS to prosper by and I'll give you little or nothing in return!

I do plan on writing, just not sure what or where at the moment. Love reading your stuff when I see it, and will really enjoy any future books or articles.

You're truly a special person. Hope you don't get sucked in by all of those thousands!

  • 2 votes
#21.22 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:14 PM EDT
Victoriawood

Hiya

Don't know why, and it's probably not prudent, but I never think about that stuff. I am not very observant. And sort of one of those wide-eyed optimistic types.

No matter. I do hope you write and post a little something soon. One you don't have a huge vested interest in. I've talked two people into it within a week, and one is off to the races and having a ball! The other just posted his, so we'll see ...

VW

  • 2 votes
#21.23 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:07 PM EDT
CL1

V...great attitude. My crystal ball says...you are going to live a LONG time! --Thanks!

  • 3 votes
#21.24 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:20 AM EDT
Victoriawood

Really! So I should forget about the asteroid? Cool! Thanks!!

  • 2 votes
#21.25 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:54 PM EDT
USAF Vet-923294

some say they get ideas for their stories, also. Even that bothers me.

I generally write about things that have happened to me and attempt to be funny. However, I have no problem with others getting ideas from what I write.

All of us read, have personal experiences and other items that go into our heads. All of that can effect what we write or even how we write. It can be inspiration, shape our opinions, ideology and beliefs or even become a part of us when we can relate what has been written into our own lives.

  • 5 votes
#21.26 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:13 PM EDT
believer-369603

If I write something and put it out there for public consumptionm, I can't control other folks. If somebody gets ideas from something I write, well, more power to them. Maybe they'll write something I can steal from.

  • 4 votes
#21.27 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:45 PM EDT
CL1

USAF & believer,

Gosh, I thought I'd start getting some flack a lot sooner than this! - just joking with ya.

Well, I wonder if you both are missing my point just a teensy-weensy little bit - I do realize that if it goes into print, it's basically up for grabs - even though it is illegal to steal verbatim. People are going to do it. As for ideas, to me, it depends on how the original writer presented it and what the 'idea' is to some degree. If you have no problem with being inspirational to others, and watching them profit from something that you thought of first, that is blessing to you to have a nature like that. For me, my attitude is affected by who I see 'stealing' the ideas. I am not going to name any specifics, but when I see the same authors doing it repeatedly (not lately) and getting cazillion hits, but the author that had the idea got less than half of that in their seed, I get my 'feathers ruffled' just a little. I hope you two don't hate me now for being honest! ...Just the way it is. I'm glad you both commented. It's always good to get another perspective, imo.

  • 2 votes
#21.28 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:28 PM EDT
believer-369603

I hope you two don't hate me now for being honest!

Oh yea, honesty always pisses me off, dammit. No Karma for you, CL1.

I'm kidding. Actually I'm usually impressed with your comments.

PS. I wouldn't put too much stock in my "perspective". I can be fairly iconoclastic. :-)

  • 4 votes
#21.29 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:36 PM EDT
CL1

Whew! Thank you. I'm relieved. I have always enjoyed reading you and truly appreciate any help or feedback. I have a lot to learn here. Your iconoclasm becomes you!

  • 3 votes
#21.30 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:44 PM EDT
USAF Vet-923294

I hope you two don't hate me now for being honest!

Nawwww. I follow what you are saying. I even agree to some extent.

Yet, I can't help but think about author such as Braum Stoker and all the authors who have written about Vampires since then. There are similarities in each and even his story "Dracula" came from folk stories that had been told before.

  • 4 votes
#21.31 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:43 PM EDT
CL1

USAF -- So very true. Often the latter work is an improvement and a benefit to all of us as well as the author. In thinking more about this, I am just starting to get used to the idiosyncrasies of blogging, and need more time to accept everything that goes with it. Thank you for your reply. It helped, really.

  • 3 votes
#21.32 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:46 PM EDT
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cookin mama

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  • 3 votes
Reply#22 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:44 PM EDT
Victoriawood

I M sad. Y?

  • 2 votes
#22.1 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:55 PM EDT
cookin mama

I sew sew bleu four u.

  • 2 votes
#22.2 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:01 PM EDT
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PenniD

Has anyone ever been to Pizza Hut's Dinning Room? I'm not too sure what they are serving in there, but it is an interesting name for a room.

  • 1 vote
Reply#23 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:40 PM EDT
Victoriawood

Good point.

  • 3 votes
#23.1 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:20 PM EDT
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cookin mama

VW

your article always have me thinking, and I thank you four it.

  • 2 votes
Reply#24 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:17 PM EDT
PenniD

This wood bee so good four a spelling be.

  • 2 votes
Reply#25 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:23 PM EDT
cookin mama

two good to bee forgotten, sew happy

  • 2 votes
Reply#26 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:26 PM EDT
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